San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick protested the anthem on the sideline of NFL games. 

“I think just the conversation at large is really kind of picking up steam …” Rapinoe said. “I think it’s taking that in stride and understanding and respecting and appreciating that people can be upset with what I’m talking about or the fact that I’m kneeling.

“But also knowing there is so much support out there, and I feel that. And that’s important for me to kind of take a step back and see both sides and get a bigger picture that the conversation is happening, and it’s going in a positive direction. I think more people are engaged in the issues I want to talk about.”

U.S. Soccer had issued a statement that said, in part, it is the federation’s “expectation that our players and coaches will stand and honor our flag while the national anthem is played.” That echoed earlier comments made by Ellis.

“It’s a very tough topic,” Ellis said. “Megan’s intent is to have people talking about that. You hope that at some point that comes. People are going to be very passionate, very opinionated, and I respect that, too. … My hope is that we move forward in a positive way. In not just this but in a lot of different things, in terms of having discussions about hard issues and people committing to things and being passionate about things.”

The national team next plays on Oct. 19 in Utah in the first of two games against Switzerland. Rapinoe’s professional team, Seattle Reign FC, plays its regular-season finale Sunday in a nationally televised game on the road against the Houston Dash.

“I don’t know why [when she stops kneeling] has to be the most important thing in this,” Rapinoe said. “I think in a large way it’s ‘OK, you’ve knelt, you’ve made your point.’ But I don’t necessarily feel like that. I don’t know what that looks like. Do I kneel forever? I don’t know, probably not. But I think until I can feel like I’m being more effective in other ways, then this seems appropriate to me.”